Green Bay, WI 1997

Green Bay Wisconsin August 10, 1997

Green Bay Community Church
Transcription by Sandy McMullen

{begin first tape}


Thank you. How are you guys tonight? Well, we've got a whole lot of music to do, so we'll get started just as quick as we can. My thinking about concerts is, you know, if you want to hear music that's on records, then you should go buy the record. (laughter) So we'll be doing a lot of music that you may not have heard. We're gonna start out with some music by a guy named Mitch McVicker. I met Mitch a couple years ago, actually, probably about four years ago, and we've been good friends ever since, and I, besides being a friend of his, I'm a big fan of his, and I think when you hear him, you will be too. So would you please welcome Mitch McVicker.

[His Love Is Right Here]

Mitch: Thanks! Well, it's nice to be in Green Bay. This is a...this is a 'real' town. (laughs) We were, we were down in, I think it was, Naperville, Illinois, and that's just a bunch of strip malls. (laughter) But...these guys are gonna switch instruments, 'cause they know how to play a whole lot of stuff. And...I'm gonna stick with the guitar...(laughter)...And this next song is called 'Freedom,' and it's about walking by faith.


Mitch: Thanks! Over there playing cello and all kinds of stringed instruments is Eric Hauck. Well, when I wrote this next song, I...I thought it was stupid. But I went ahead and I decided to play through it a couple times anyway, and...after that I decided that instead it was profound. (laughter) Because, I think that's the way it is with a whole lot of things in life. I think, a lot of times the silliest, most lighthearted things end up being the most meaningful. I know that I all too often forget that Jesus called us to come to Him like a little kid. Not sure what that means, but...I don't think He was talking about immaturity, even though, that's the part that I've got down. I think He's just hoping for us to depend upon Him for as much as we can, and trust that He'll provide. So this is a song about a guy that I'd like to be like someday.

[The Lemonade Song]

Mitch: Thank you! Playing percussion is Michael Aukofer. Well, this next song, it kind of has the same theme as the last one. And, ironically, it kind of has the same theme as every song I've ever written. Because I do get confused when I start thinking about faith and hope and peace, and all that stuff. It just kind of seems like it's all the same thing. Kind of like, it's just this one big ball of stuff. And we take these words, and we attach them to these ideas and truths that we know a little bit about, but for the most part they're just way beyond us. So I think that what everything comes down to, and what holds that big ball of stuff together, is love. At least that's what...that's what I get from reading the Bible, and listening to the words of Jesus. So I keep writing songs about love, I guess because a lot of times we like to talk about the stuff that we know the least about. Plus I'm just in a 'rut.' (laughter) But I've been in a lot worse ruts. So maybe, I'm thinking if I stay in this one for a little while, that I will learn about, learn a little bit of something about loving people, and loving God, and letting Him love me. And that might not be until I'm eighty years old--I'm hoping at least by the time I'm dead. But until then I'm gonna try and stick to the simple stuff. And not get caught up in all the issues that sometimes we get fooled into thinking we gotta take this real big stand on. And we get all that figured out, and then we realize that sometimes we've lost sight of what's really important. So in my attempt to keep things simple, I'm just trying to remember that Jesus loves the 'hell' out of us...literally...


Sometimes it's weird to think that we've got 'hell' inside of us to be loved out. Sometimes it's hard to look at. But then again, sometimes it's hard to look at the 'heaven' that's within us. Because, it's kind of overwhelming too, when you think about it. But...they're both there, and I think, I think the whole spiritual realm is a lot more 'real' than a lot of times we take it to be. I know, at least for me, anyway. But the good news is that, since both 'heaven' and 'hell' are real present, Jesus has overcome the bad, and He's the Giver of the good. And that maybe, maybe someday all of us will be motivated by love, to do what we do, by His love that's within us.'s another song about love, and it's called--it's really just kind of a statement of faith, at this point in my life--it's called, 'Only Love Will.'

[Only Love Will]

Mitch: Thank you! Well, ya'll have been really nice to listen, and I just wanted to say that if you wanted to buy any of my records or--I keep saying 'records' but they don't make records anymore--if you want to buy any of my tapes or cd's, I don't got any. (laughter) But I'm going into the studio in a couple weeks to do my first one. (applause) And what I do have now is a mailing list. I have a 'sign-up' sheet back by all the other tapes and cd's, and if you want to sign up on that I can keep you up-to-date on the album, and the other stuff I'm doing...whatever that is...we're gonna do one more song, and it's called, 'Take Hold Of Me.'

[Take Hold Of Me]


Mitch: Thanks. Now here is...Rich Mullins!

[Nothing But The Blood - instrumental]

[Awesome God]


Thank you.

[intro to Brother's Keeper]

(sings) Now there's--clink in his car--and the musician has forgotten his lyrics...and the lover's got a lonely heart...

[rest of song]


Thank you very much! Well, I have a lot of trouble with lyrics, I dunno. It's a good thing I write 'em.


Don't you hate it when you go to a concert, and a guy goes, you know, because, you know, a lot of times performers have those insecurities and junk, and they'll say, because they're insecure they'll go, "Ah...Now I'm going to do a little song and it goes something like this." I always want to go, "Look, buddy, I paid exactly ten bucks to hear that song. I want to hear EXACTLY what it goes like!"


Well, this song sometimes goes different, but tonight this song goes exactly like this: (laughter)

[first half of Boy Like Me, Man Like You]

(speaks)...tonight's version of this song does not include a pennywhistle solo. Because we thought the space would be nice, we thought you would enjoy a little 'peace,' right in this section. And I don't know how to play it yet...

[verse, chorus]

(speaks)...and it's really awkward when you sing if you're not playing something, (laughs) 'cuz what do you do with your arms?

(sings) And I really may just grow up, and be like You...

(speaks)...and then you have those long solos that you don't know how to play, so you're not only not singing, but you're not playing either. And so then, you know, what do you do with your hands or your mouth? It's a big, you know, bill to foot.


Have y'all ever seen one of these before? This is a, for those of you who don't know, it's a lap dulcimer, and it was invented by Irish immigrants in this country. And a good many of them ended up, because they couldn't get jobs in Boston, because, you know, even though people talk about religious freedom, in Boston, they were all, you know, Puritans, even after they didn't believe what Puritans believed anymore. And the Irish were all Catholic, and so they, you know they drank, and smoked, and brawled, and had lots of kids.


And of course the Puritans didn't approve of any of those behaviors, so--they wouldn't give them jobs, so they all ended up going down to Appalachia for jobs, and that's where they invented this little instrument. It's one of the only musical instruments invented in this country, which I think is a nice thing.

(sings) ...some day...[conclusion of Boy Like Me, Man Like You]


[instrumental on lap dulcimer accompanied by cello and drum (title 'John'?)]


Thank you. That song I wrote for my dad, this song I wrote for a little girl that wasn't supposed to get born. She...(feedback squeal)...what in the world is that noise, please stop that... They found out that she was gonna have multiple birth defects and so the doctor recommended she be aborted, and said, "Well, she'll never survive the birth anyway so may as well get rid of her now." Then after she was born, he said, "Well, she'll never survive the hour," and after that night he said she would never survive the next day. Later he said she would never survive the month. And sixteen months later, Madeline is still alive. She...when she sleeps, she folds her hands like this...we all think that she's praying for us. So this is a song I wrote for her.


[78 Eatonwood Green]


(Rich laughs)

[Calling Out Your Name]


[Such A Thing As Glory]


Thank you. Well, this next song I didn't write...(laughs to one side) I'm really sorry about that, Jordan...I wish I would have because it's one of my favorite songs I ever recorded, but it was written by a Scottish guy named Dougie MacLean. I learned it from a band back in Cincinnatti many years ago, and I always really loved it. And then I got the opportunity to go to Ireland, and it made me love it even more, because it's a song about going out to sea. And I don't know if you've ever been to Ireland. I highly recommend it, 'cos it'll make you behave better, because it's--it's a little bit like going to Heaven for a little while. And it makes you want to get there, to stay, for a long time. But the Atlantic Ocean, the North Atlantic, is very stormy and wind-tossed, and, you know, romantic and scary, all that stuff...romance is scary, I guess...(laughter)...I've heard rumors about romance...And the Irish have always traditionally been afraid of the sea. In fact, if a guy was going to be a sailor, he wasn't allowed to learn how to swim, because the water is so cold up there that to swim only prolongs your agony. If your boat goes down you just want to drown quick, is the idea. The Irish have always been afraid of the water, probably because of the way the North Atlantic is, and also probably because of how bad they have always been at building boats. (laughter) And the soil in the west of Ireland is so thin that they couldn't support themselves from it, so they had to go out to sea to go fishing and stuff. And often they would go out and they wouldn't come back for weeks and weeks. And when they finally washed up on the shore, there they'd be, all, you know, deteriorated and stuff, and their wives would come down, and they couldn't tell one husband from the other. (laughter) Of course, having been to Ireland I know a lot of Irish women have that problem even if their husbands are alive. (laughter) So, you know when people come back from Ireland, they have those great big huge sweaters, you know, that have stitches and stuff in 'em, and all these designs, and stuff? Well, those designs are based on--the wives began to knit for them these sweaters. And they would knit little charms and prayers into the sweaters. So then if the charms and prayers 'took,' then the men would come back alive, and if they didn't, because fish don't eat wool, they could tell one husband from the other. (laughter) You like it? (laughs) So that's kind of what this song is about, only...(laughter)...not really...

[Ready For The Storm]


[By The Waters Of Babylon]


Thank you. Well, I didn't write that song either. 'Traditional' did. I learned it from an album I had a long time ago by Don MacClean, called American Pie. (scattered applause) Guess you had it, too. I'm so proud that you will admit it. (laughter) You must not have kids yet. Have you admitted to them, how bad your taste was when you were their age? (laughter) That's why I don't get pictures and stuff, man. We used to blackmail my folks all the time. You know, we'd look at what they looked like when they were, you know, our age, and we'd go, (snicker) "...and you're worried about us?"

Oh, wow. That's why I, you know--I know the Bible says that children are a blessing, and stuff. I just have to take it on faith. (laughter) That must be true in some sense. You know that song, "By The Waters Of Babylon," the text is from the Scriptures, it's from one of the psalms. I think it's one of the most beautifully written psalms in the whole collection. Except, the thing that blows me away is that after you have this really beautiful lament, then at the very last verse of that is, "How blessed is the man who dashes their little ones' heads against the rocks." (scattered laughter) This is not the sort of scripture you read at a 'Pro-Life' meeting. (laughter) You just have to take it on faith that it's supposed to be in there, I guess. For a long time I couldn't understand it, and Sunday I had to help out in the nursery at church. (laughter, applause) I realized then, in fact, God's ways are higher than ours...(laughter)'s funny...people pay good money to get them. I never understood it. You spend all that money, you know, having those babies, and then they're gonna take your money from you for the rest of your life. (laughter) I suppose they would be nice, at some point...never at five in the morning. All my friends that have kids, hate their kids at night. Most of them give them drugs, to get them to sleep. "Here, kiddy, kiddy, kiddy!" (laughter ) (he chuckles) That's what I love about parents. Because everyone thinks that love is supposed to make sense. Then you go, but it can't make sense. 'Cause who loves more than a parent loves their child? And that makes no sense whatsoever. All those children do is, you know, eat, and throw up, and dirty their diapers. (laughter) And their parents are so proud of it. (laughter) Especially their first one. "This is the first diaper!" Blows me away. And then you know, you go in their houses, and they've got those pictures on their refrigerators. I want to find out who invented those magnets and shoot 'em. (laughter) And they're so proud of those pictures. "Look what Aiden drew!" I dunno, what is it? (laughter) "It's beautiful! Look what a sense of color and balance he already..." And you go, man, it looks like a Picasso. And I mean that in the worst sense of the word. (laughter) This is not great art. "Well, yeah, but it's really good for a two-year-old!" Well, yes, but it's still not the sort of thing you want to hang on your wall, is it? Parents are so amazing to me the way they love their kids.

A lot of people say, you know, gee, because people like what I write and stuff, you know, they always say, "So when you write, do you sit down and try to think of something really heavy to say to people?" I'm like, no, actually, no. They say, "Well, what inspires you?" And I always say, well, you know, I have a lot of pagan friends, and I talk to them a lot about the inspiration of the Scriptures. How as Christians we believe that they were breathed out by God, and that they are inspired by God. So, if I say my songs are inspired, I think that confuses people. Because then I think that they think that my songs should be canonized, and the Canon has been closed for several years now. (laughter) So I always like to say that I believe the Scriptures are inspired and our songs are provoked. And then people say, "Well then, what provokes your songs?" And the honest answer is, bills. (laughter) What provokes you to go to your work? (laughter, applause) And you know, you hope in the course of writing something that you're gonna say something that's gonna encourage someone to do something good, but man, I tell you, there's so much great music out there, that none of us need to write any more good stuff. There's just more great music than we could ever listen to, if we lived to be a hundred. And it's a great, great privilege to get to do what I do for a living. And it's a great honor that you pay someone when you listen to them and I sure appreciate the way you've been listening tonight. You've really honored us, and I hope we have something to give you back.

[Compassion ad]

We're going to do one more song for you, and then we're gonna take a break. And we'll take a ten-minute break, and I really do mean ten minutes, 'kids!' Because we have as much music to do in the second half as we've done in the first half. So, we wanna...(applause) all that and have you get home in time to go to work tomorrow. So--we're gonna do this in an 'old church' way, we're gonna line it out, which means that I will sing a line to you, and then you all will take it and sing it up to God, ok? They used to do this before they had hymnals, and I still think it's a good idea.

[I See You]



[Like It Or Not]


Mark: (laughs) Thanks! Well...we've been on the road, This Train, since April 23rd. Last night was the first night we've slept in our own beds since April. just hit us, we're in the last week of a tour, we're kind of sleepy. It just hit us! So normally, people--people, "Oh, you're so energetic, you're so energetic!" Not tonight. I need a nap. None of that's your problem, though. So...(tuning)...oh, that's not The guy at the store tuned this for me when I bought it...(laughter)...don't know what happened...he told me something when he sold this to me. These strings are real cat-gut, he told me. Real cat-gut. And I didn't think much of it, I went, well, that's fine. And I didn't feel bad, but...the strings are starting to come unraveled, and I'd swear it's a whisker. (laughter) And now I feel all guilty. (laughs) "Kitty..." (laughter) So...I don't think there's much we can do for this guy now, though...I have friends who think that's about the kindest thing you could do to a cat, but I'm not one of those people... Anyway, this is one of my very favorite songs of all time, and we hope you'll sing along, because it'll sound a lot better than just watching us nod off up here. And you might not recognize this particular version of this song, but once you do recognize it, please sing along.

[I Saw The Light]

Mark: Thanks! I think I just, I think I did something bad, hold on... Are those pins at the bottom supposed to be bent over sideways? (laughter) Anyway...the guy at the store said--oh no, never mind--(laughs) Well, we, about two weeks ago our brand new record came out, we have a second cd out. No doubt news to you who didn't know we had a first cd. (laughter) That's all right. And...but...when we started writing songs for it, I was really struck by that scripture that says, anything you do unto the least of these you do unto Me. So I began to ask myself, who are, in fact, the 'least of these,' the very 'least of these.' And since we live in the '90's we hopped on the Internet and 'surfed the Web,' or in my case, 'dogpaddled' the Web, and...(laughs) I swear, the whole first month I had a computer, I just hid in a corner and threw rocks at it. (laughter) But anyway...we compiled our lists of who, in fact, are the 'least of these,' and we were really surprised to find out that it's mimes. Isn't that weird? I know, I was surprised too, but if you think about it, these are people, like, you know, without jobs, who just hang out in public parks all day 'walking against the wind' and what-have-you, hoping to get spare change from hardworking people like you and me. (laughter) And, still, nonetheless I was still surprised. So...this is our drummer, Cobra Joe. Say "hi" to Joe, would ya? (cheers) Leave 'em alone, Joe. I told...and that's Jordan.

{end first tape/start second tape}

Mark: Hey, thanks so much!

[I Will Sing]

[Sing Your Praise To The Lord]

Thank you. This is a song I wrote in Amsterdam, and kind of how everything is 'legal' in Amsterdam. I always thought my parents didn't sin because they were just too old. When I was there, I was as old as my parents were when I used to think that. And I don't think I was--I guess you just think that as you live, you eventually outgrow temptation, and the reality is, you don't. You need Jesus just as much now as you ever did. That's what this song is about.

[Hold Me, Jesus]


[While The Nations Rage]


Thank you. That was a song I wrote for the 'village,' 'cause I don't want them to raise your children for you. This is a song I wrote for the sky.

[If I Stand]


This here's a song I wrote for Martin Luther. Because the only place in the whole Bible where it (doesn't) say "faith only," his favorite phrase, was in James, where it said that we are not saved by faith only. And he wanted to cut it out of the Canon because it didn't agree with him. And so he started a great Protestant tradition of just taking what we like of the Scriptures and ignoring the rest.

[Screen Door]


Don't get me wrong, I like Martin. (laughs, laughter) Oh, it's just none of us are right about everything, are we? Which is the whole problem in life, because you kind of go, man, if only all Republicans were really stingy, wouldn't it be easy to just dismiss them all? And if only all Democrats were really 'whacked,' then we could get rid of them, too, but, you know, there's good and bad in all of us. And it all gets mixed up, and it's hard to sort it out. Which is, I guess, why we like heroes so much. I often get asked who my heroes are, and I have a good many, and I don't know any of them. And I have a feeling if I got to know any of them I wouldn't like 'em anymore.

I don't want to be too cynical, though, about things. There is one guy...I got in trouble, you know, I got a lot of 'hate mail' because of...I get more 'hate mail' than any other Christian artist probably in the universe. (laughter) And I don't know why, because I think I'm a nice guy. (laughter) I remember one time, though, I was waiting on my manager. I was sitting outside this promoter's meeting down in Nashville, and they were talking about all these different Christian artists, and they said, you know, what is their 'demographic'?--that's what they call you guys, the 'demographic'--and they said, you know, so-and-so, he appeals to young families, young married couples, blah blah blah blah. They said someone else, and they went, oh, he appeals to teenagers, someone else, oh, that's the college crowd. Then after a long, long time they finally said my name, and there was just dead silence. (laughter) It was making me really nervous, and finally, one fellow spoke up, he said, "Rich Mullins...I think he appeals to smokers." (laughter) I felt really wonderfully complimented, (laughs) to tell you the truth. Don't you get sick of health freaks? I always want to say, look Bud, you're gonna die anyway. You may as well go out eating something that you like. (applause) What is the point of living to be a hundred and fifty if all you get to eat is bean sprouts? (laughter) I'll never understand people, I'll tell you...

Anyway, one of my heroes, I cited as being my hero, was Francis of Assissi. And I...when I was a kid I saw a movie called Brother Sun, Sister Moon. It's available in a lot of video stores, and I highly recommend you get it. You just have to ignore Donovan's soundtrack. It's very 'dated' and corny. But if you get past that, it's really a wonderfully made film. It's by Franco Zeffirelli. And I tried to play it for my nieces and nephews and stuff, because I think that they need heroes and all that, too, and they can't get past the soundtrack. So...(laughter) I thought, I'd like to try to rewrite the soundtrack for that movie, and send it over to Franco and see if he'd re-release the movie with a, you know, what I would consider a great soundtrack. And then I went, you know, there's no way, you know, it just wouldn't work. So I decided, Beaker and I decided to write a musical about Francis of Assissi. Only we decided instead of having him be a twelfth-century Italian saint, we would change him into a nineteenth-century American cowboy. And just basically follow the course of his life, which is played out in the American West instead of twelfth-century Italy. So we've written it, it's called Canticle Of The Plains, and it will someday be available in some form. At this point it's lost, and we're not sure where to find it. (laughs) But on the recording, I don't know if you're familiar with DC Talk, but Kevin Smith and Michael Tait sing two of the parts. And then, Leah Bingham Nash of Sixpence None The Richer sings the part of Claire, because she's the most Claire-like person we could think of. And when I met Mitch in college, I went home and I said, "Man, Beaker, I just met Frank. I met the guy who is exactly what Francis would be like if he were a nineteenth century cowboy instead of a twelfth century saint." And so, he sings the part of Frank on the tape. And we're gonna do one of his songs tonight. This is a song of dedication that Frank sings when he realizes that to say 'yes' to Jesus means that you necessarily have to say 'no' to everything else.

[Heaven Is Waiting]


Well...(piano intro to 'Just As I Am')'s now that time of evening when we're gonna ask hundreds of you to come forward and...listen to yet another This Train song.

Mark: You've been a very polite audience so far, so why don't you get over it and hop on up for a second...this is kind of just an old hillbilly gospel 'stomp your hands, clap your feet,' 'marry-a-relative' kind of song...

[That Great Atomic Power]


And here's another song from Mitch.


Mitch: Y'all are clapping good! This song's called 'Hope.'



Mitch: Thanks!

[Bound To Come Some Trouble]


Thank you all so very, very much for coming out tonight, you've been really great to play to. We've never played in Green Bay before. Thank you for having us. I hope you'll have us back.


It's always funny to try to figure out why people come to hear, you know, what you do. 'Cause you, um, I get so bored with it. One thing that gets me through 'Awesome God' is when everybody else sings it, you know. And I think it's a really good song, I ain't saying it ain't. Just so happens I like a lot of stuff I write. I always resent those guys who don't like what they write, then I kind of go, "Then please don't burden me with it."


I think you ought to like what you do. Because there's a reasonably good chance no one else is going to.


I think a lot of what we do is kind of like what my friends' kids do, you know. Angels probably, I've just got a feeling like God's got this great big refrigerator up there in heaven, that's just covered with what we do. Angels come by for a drink or something, and they see all the junk on His refrigerator, and they go, "God! What are You thinking! You own the cattle on a thousand hills, surely You could afford a few good pieces of work!" Then God goes, "Ah, I know. But my kid made that."

Picasso said that good taste was the enemy of great art. I think he was right. Especially given the art that God does when we offer up the 'junk' of our lives. And He turns that into something that is beautiful to Him.

And you know what, not only do the angels sometimes probably think He's 'whacked'--sometimes you and me think He's kind of gone a little 'off his nut' too. Because we're going through our lives, and we're trying as hard as we can, and things just seem to always blow up in our faces, and we keep going, "God, God, why?" We don't know what He's doing. So just let Him do it. If you really believe He's good, then let Him do it.

People always say, "I don't know where the Lord is leading me." I always say, it don't really make a whole lot of difference. The important thing is to be where He has led you to already. If He has led you into a marriage, then be faithful there. If He has led you into being single, then be faithful there. If He has blessed you with many material goods, then be a good steward of those goods. And if He has blessed you by allowing you to imitate His life of poverty, then imitate it with great joy.

Someone once asked Mother Teresa if she thought that we didn't suffer in the United States like other people did because we were a righteous nation, and Mother Teresa said, "Oh, no, I'm afraid you're so wrong." They said, "What do you mean?" She said, "I don't think you suffer because I don't think you are worthy to suffer."

Don't resist the work of God in your life by asking for an easy life. If you live really good, folks, you'll get older. I guarantee you that, you will get older.

It's amazing to me to see pictures of my grandparents, when they were kids, and how handsome, and pretty and everything they were, and bright looking. And then seeing them when they were very, very old, I never would have connected the two. Life had beat them beyond recognition, in many ways. They had arthritis, they had cornea dystrophy. Eventually they died, and we all are gonna do that sooner or later.

And if you live really good, you will be beaten. If you really try to walk in faith, you will fall. You will stumble. If you believe that your life in Christ is one constant spiral upward, then you are badly mistaken. And if you think it's heretical to say, then read the lives of the apostles. Their lives were blemished, their track records were not particularly good.

If you try to have faith, you will be attacked by doubts you never knew you were capable of. But you keep on believing, even if you fall, even if you struggle with doubts, you keep on believing. And if you live a life that is marked by hope, by the belief that God is good, and there is goodness in the world that awaits us, you'll be disappointed. You'll be crushed, even, sometimes. The Scriptures say hope deferred makes the heart grow sick. You're gonna have a sick heart. But you keep on hoping. And if you choose to love, you will be misunderstood, you will be betrayed, you will be rejected by the people who most desperately need the love you have to offer. And remember that when you try to love, it's not like love in the movies. In the movies, when people are loving each other physically, they always are perfectly fit and tan, and beautiful. Most of y'all, I've seen you, you don't look like that.


We are blemished people, and in order to love anybody, in any way, we have to expose that part of us that we'd rather keep hidden. Our own selfishness, our own fears, our own hangups, and it's embarrassing. So humiliating. But you keep on loving.

Many of us are obsessed with becoming rich, many of us are obsessed with becoming smart. But all of our wisdom, all of our great insights, we see in part and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect comes, that which is in part is done away with. But there are three things that will remain: faith, and hope, and love. Make sure you live in those. And if you do, you will be hurt, you will be crushed. But when you wash up on that other side, when life is done with you, when you wash up over there, them angels that were looking at your little works of art and saying how tragically misconducted they were, they will look at what's left of your body and say, "Man, what is this!" And Jesus will say, "Oh, I know who that is. They are mine!" And the angel will say, "How do you know he's yours?" And Jesus will say, "Well, you see that sweater they've got on?"


"I knit that for them."

[Sometimes By Step]



God bless you all! Good night!


[No Not One] (sung acappella)


Do ya'll know,

[I'm Gonna Sing, Sing, Sing]

[Swing Low, Sweet Chariot]

[When The Saints Go Marching In]

Ok, now I gotta divide you into three groups to do the rest of this song, so you people over there in that section, and you people over there, way over there in that section, you're gonna be Group A. You people here in this section, Eric pay attention. These people over here, this is Group B. (cheers) And you guys right here, you're the 'leftovers.' (cheers) Now before we get into this, I want to say one more thing to ya--and that is, the people that Christ came for first were the 'leftovers.' (cheers) And Jesus has a special place in His heart for the oppressed, and I hope that we won't forget about them. I hope that you will go back and look at the Compassion stuff. I hope that you can become part of a wonderful ministry, and that you will know the joy of being a part of that. Now we're gonna sing, so Group A, you're going to sing with Mark and with Mitch, you're gonna sing,

[I'm Gonna Sing, Sing, Sing]

Can you hear 'em? Group A, c'mon, you gotta sing louder than that. You just keep singing that, sing louder.

Group B, you sing with him (Eric).

[Swing Low, Sweet Chariot]

Hey leftovers, are y'all ready? I'm gonna sing with you, we're gonna sing,

[When The Saints Go Marching In]

All right! All together I want to hear you singing,

[I'm Gonna Sing, Sing, Sing]

Thanks again! One more song, it goes:

[the Doxology, 'Praise God From Whom All Blessings Flow']